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July 7, 2006 at 7:33 pm #9418chuckk333Member
Where is there a study that says cancer feeds on sugar?
July 8, 2006 at 7:43 am #9419seekayMemberI would highly recommend the Omega 8003 Juicer. It is a slow speed triturator with a large plastic auger–the same kind of juicing action as the Champion.
It weighs only 15 lbs. I recall–sturdy construction and much less heavy than the Champion, and is easier, much easier, to clean. Also, the pulp comes out noticeably drier than in the Champion, from my test.
I think it’s a well-kept secret. Better than the Green Power too. Less moving parts. It works really well. I got ours at http://www.livingright.com (I think it was? in AZ. Google “Open Chute” and “Omega” and that should bring you to the company’s website). It was $205 shipped and worth every penny.
As far as juicing recipes, I like plain carrots and apple. Four organic carrots and one organic apple (though they are hard to find in the summer). Right now, we just do an organic carrot juice every morning. Carrots are fantastic alkalinizing veggies and detoxifiers for the body. Also chock full of a large complement of vitamins, minerals/phytochemicals, enzymes, and even protein.
Look on Gerson.org and click on the Hawaii retreat for the two juicing recipes they use in the therapy. One is the carrot-apple juice, and the other is a dark leafy green-apple juice. The malic acid in the apple, when juiced with the other veggies, allows more phytochemicals from the vegetable to be released.
The mother of all juicers is the Norwalk. But it is heavy and expensive. The juice from that, though, is powerful. One can use the Champion, Omega, or any other slow speed trituterator with a manual hydraulic press to squeeze the pulp for more juice for similar effect. One has to be very careful with this juice, though, it is like medicine for the body, and will break down toxins in the blood stream which can cause headaches, etc. if they aren’t able to exit via excretion easily and rather quickly. I got a taste of the Norwalk-made carrot-apple juice when I went to the Gerson Caregivers Workshop recently. Foolishly, I had three 8 oz. glasses over the course of one day, and got a headache and nausea that prevented me from eating any dinner. Only after I made three trips to the bathroom, then finally “eliminated” an unusually dark colored substance did I feel any relief (at 7 pm on a Sat, most unusual). Next day, I felt really clear and energized.
Juicing is great because it allows one to absorb large quantities of raw, live nutrients in the most easily digestible manner–without having to chew all that stuff. This is why juicing is a critical component of many alternative therapies, including Gerson, because cancer patients already have compromised and weakened digestive systems and need nutrition in a way that does not put further stress on the body, and allows the body to focus its resources on fighting the cancer.
On the Gerson diet, one “eats” the nutritional equivalent of 20 lbs of produce a day, 17 of that in raw form (from the juices and a small portion from salad with meals) and 3 in cooked, soft form (e.g., well-cooked broccoli, cauliflower, baked potatoes, Hippocrates soup, etc.) This is what is meant by clinical doses of nutrition. What our bodies could do if we gave them the right kinds of foods, kept them away from the wrong kinds, and gave them such huge quantities of it. It’s beautiful to see.
July 8, 2006 at 1:54 pm #9420SandyBMemberNutrition-A Cancer Battle Plan is an interesting article. Here is the link: http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/nutrition/diet.htm
Hope it is helpful to you.
July 9, 2006 at 1:21 am #9421seekayMemberThanks, Sandy. I skimmed through half the article or so (have to read fast when two year old is present!).
Some observations:
Gerson diet is mostly a live, raw vegetarian diet. The article is incorrect when it says that Gerson recommends cooking most vegetables, because, in fact, 17 lbs. of the vegetables one consumes every day are in the form of the juices (13 8 oz. glasses a day). Only a small percentage of the daily diet is cooked, and that part he recommends cooking very WELL. Make the broccoli and cauliflower very soft, because, he reasons, you’ve already killed the enzymes and changed the colloidal content of the vegetable by applying heat to it, so make it as easy for the body to digest as possible. Only lightly steaming veggies is neither here nor there for the body–it’s actually the worst of both worlds he thinks.
In the cooking utensils section, I would add not to cook in aluminum. Only glass or stainless steel is best.
Gerson Institute folk are skeptical that RO takes out the fluorine ion, because it is so small and can pass the through the membrane. If one has fluoridated tap water (as we in LA do), Charlotte advises bathing in distilled water via sponge baths, because one will absorb fluoride, chlorine, and other contaminants through the skin.
SODIUM–much worse than sugar because it also inhibits enzymatic action in the body. People who have had tumors die while on the diet have had them grow back because of increased sodium content in the diet. [I never understood why Bernard Jensen is such an advocate of sodium, but have not read any of his stuff in depth.]
The body can get all the sodium it needs from food. What it doesn’t need, it will excrete, through urine, perspiration, saliva. So if your sweat tastes salty, you are consuming too much sodium.
Potassium, on the other hand, the body does not “hold onto” like sodium. The chronically ill body often has a potassium-sodium balance that is badly out of whack. The cells need the potassium, but have difficulty holding onto it, so Gerson diet, like others, recommends potassium supplementation. It is not potassium chloride, but a different tri-combo that patients take. I don’t know the fine details on this issue, only the general explanation, but this is an important point for cancer patients to research and learn.
SWEETENERS–a great sweetener not mentioned here is unsulphured blackstrap molasses. Molasses is the byproduct of making sugar and is high in iron, calcium and potassium. We add it to our oatmeal in the morning. Organic rolled oats with reconstituted unsulphured dried fruit that has been stewed is the Gerson diet breakfast for two years. That, along with perhaps a small glass of organic grapefruit or orange juice and peppermint or chamomile tea. Everything has a reason on the diet. The reason for the rolled oats is that besides being high in nutrients, they create a wonderful lining of the intestinal tract to allow the juices to pass through and be easily abosrbed in the intestines.
BERRIES–Often people with cancer have very weakened digestive systems and have difficulty with things like berries, cucumbers. They are “verboten” on the diet initially.
BLOOD WORK–This is a must. All Gerson patients have a panoply of labwork done on a regular basis to monitor their blood chemistry in relation to the diet. Dr. Max Gerson worked with a doctor in Germany who was an expert in this field and learned a lot from him, and he always included this kind of analysis in his treatment of patients. It is done at the Baja Nutricare Clinic in Mexico and also afterwards–patients who leave are asked to get their lab work done regularly and to fax it to the doctors at BNC for finetuning of the therapy–a process that can go on for two years.
July 9, 2006 at 1:23 am #9422seekayMemberWould also add that Max Gerson was a licensed, well-studied and trained physician, MD, like we all know and love.
Jensen was (is?) not.
July 11, 2006 at 2:29 am #9423uno grasshopperMemberQuote:Originally posted by chuckk333:
Where is there a study that says cancer feeds on sugar?Hi Chuck!
If you Google the key words like cancer +sugar, you’ll likely get a lot of hits on articles regarding sugar feeding cancer. Consider how some cultures are grown in the labs in petri dishes. Many times they add sugar in the medium to which they grow cultures. Also, PET scans (positron emission tomography)use a type of radioactive sugar because the cancer cells absorb high amounts of the sugar. PET is useful when your doctor thinks the cancer has spread, but doesn’t know where. Anyway, here’s one link to an article that discusses cancer using sugar/glucose for survival. http://www.mercola.com/blog/2006/jul/3/more_evidence_sugar_feeds_cancer But there’s a lot to know about sugar and how the body uses it, so keep that in mind. For instance the body “needs” sugar and draws upon its own resources to make it when needed. The brain as well as other parts of the body need sugar, but the trick is, it needs to be regulated properly. And likely those who have cancers, their bodies aren’t regulating sugars as well as it should. It gets complicated, obviously, but it is known in the medical community that cancer uses sugar.
Take care!
Marla
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