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  • #28636
    Lori A White
    Participant

    I have never posted anything before, think this might help me a little. I am a 47 year old woman recently diagnosed with MDS. However, the doctors can’t seem to get my marrow to confirm 100% because I have fibrosis in my marrow. This week they tried to get it thru my sternum, with no luck. They are getting a longer needle and trying again next week. All my blood levels (whites, reds, platelets, hemo) are all low and continue to decline. Just wondering if anyone else has had the problem of the fibrosis in the marrow and just needing to vent and get some information from anyone willing to talk about their experiences.

    #28638
    caretothepeople
    Participant

    Hi Lori, and welcome! Glad you found your way here.

    Is it myelofibrosis? If so check out the MPN Coalition. On their website they have great resources like a list of questions to ask your doctor, treatment, clinical trials, etc. Might be helpful to check out.

    #28644
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Lori, Another variant of MDS is MDS with fibrosis. MDS is sometimes associated with scarring of the bone marrow, termed fibrosis. The severity of fibrosis can be determined on a core biopsy by using a reticulin and trichrome (collagen) stain. The finding of collagen within the bone marrow is a sign of severe fibrosis. Fibrosis is akin to scarring of the bone marrow; it is a reaction to abnormal growth factors produced by cells in the MDS-afflicted marrow. The scarring of marrow replaces the blood cell forming components of the marrow, further contributing to low blood counts. I hope this helps.

    #28663
    Lori A White
    Participant

    Hi Melody,
    I am not sure if it is myelofibrosis. I think I remember hearing that, but with everything else they were telling me I got lost. I will ask my oncologist in an email with a few other questions I have for her. Thank you.

    #28664
    Lori A White
    Participant

    Thanks for your message. I am concerned that my doctors have been unable to get my marrow the traditional way through my pelvic bone (both sides). They are trying again on Tuesday 11/24 through the sternum. How important is finding out the severity of the fibrosis? If it is in one bone marrow, is it throughout my bone marrow? The core biopsy/stain you speak of, is that based on the white marrow if they can get it or is it some other type of test? Then also, another question to ask would be with the fibrosis, would a transplant still be the recommended plan for a cure?
    I’m sure you can’t answer that question, but I know my doctors are determined to try and get a sample of my marrow.

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    #28680
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Lori, Thank you for your post. I know this is a difficult situation for you and I would recommend that you go to one of our Centers of Excellence in MDS for a second opinion and to have your bone marrow aspirate done there as well. You should be very carefully assessed before undergoing any treatment. Following is a link to our Centers of Excellence worldwide https://www.mds-foundation.org/mds-centeres-of-excellence/. I hope this information helps. If we can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me at ahassan@mds-foundation.org.

    #28687
    Cindy Haro
    Participant

    Hi, I was recently diagnosed, too (last week) and the doctor had a difficult time pulling out enough bone marrow due to scarring. It is a frustrating thing, part of me wanted to say stop, maybe that’s the only marrow left! I was working outside the U.S. when diagnosed and am scared that the doctors at home will want to redo the test. Any advice?

    #28688
    Lori A White
    Participant

    Hi Cindy,
    I would recommend that you do whatever marrow tests they want to do. I still have to have to do a sternal biopsy. They tried at each pelvic point and could not get any marrow because of scarring. Once at my sternum, but only had a needle they use on children so have to do it again. As much as I don’t want to keep getting poked and prodded I think this is the only way for them to make a positive diagnosis. I have thought about going for another opion but like you don’t want to have all the same tests done again. The other doctors will most likely want to do their own tests with their own labs. But they got a least some of your marrow right? They haven’t gotten any of mine so maybe that’s way I am determined to let them do whatever they can. I hope this helps but please let me know how you make out.

    #28961
    Cristy Rajdl
    Participant

    Hi, Lori!

    I was diagnosed with MDS on November 5, 2015 and am being observed and awaiting consultation for a bone marrow transplant. I am 46 years old, a teacher, and a mother of three. I had two bone marrow biopsies, one at the end of October and the other at the U of MN during the first week of November. Right now my neutrophil count prohibits me from teaching, and my other counts are also in the low or low normal range. I am wondering if you have found out more information about your blast count and the timeline for your transplant. Just curious about the physical effects of MDS and the process others are going through after diagnosis… Thanks! 🙂

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 3 months ago by Cristy Rajdl.
    #28964
    rar
    Participant

    18 months past SCT and doing fairly well. The saga of my transplant, start to now
    Since there are people constantly coming and going I thought it might be a good idea to post my transplant experience from start to now at 18 months. Keep in mind that this is a risky procedure and this is a summary of my treatment. It seems there are as many treatment modalities as there are patients. Most transplants have some bumps in the road. Mine were probably a little worse than normal.

    Feb 2014 Routine CBC blood test by PCP showed slightly low red, white, and platelet counts. PCP refereed me to a hematologist. I was somewhat worried when his office said Cancer Center. Hematologist did some more testing and said I had a very mild case of MDS (bone marrow cancer) that probably would never need treatment.

    May 2014 Return visit to oncologist resulted in more tests including a bone marrow biopsy. BMB showed 14% blasts (cancer cells). The diagnosis was now MDSRAEB2. Without treatment the 50% survival time for this is 5 months. I was only 73, much too early to have this fell me. The only cure is a transplant. All three of my sisters were 10/10 HLA matches. All three of my brothers were 0/10 matches. We picked my baby sister (68). Blasts were another problem. For a transplant my doctors wanted blasts below 5%. They found a clinical trial for a drug (AG-221) that works for people who have a IDH2 gene mutation, which I had. I was enrolled as lucky 13th patient in the world to receive this drug.

    A side note on clinical trials. Clinical trials is how breakthroughs in drug treatment and new drugs occur. About 5% of eligible patients will participate, slowing research progress. During my treatment I was enrolled in 6 different trials.

    June 2014 In a month on AG-221 my blasts went from 14% to 2%, but the blood counts did not improve. I was advised that this drug was probably not a durable cure for me and wanted a transplant ASAP. I asked what were we waiting for. I underwent reduced intensity chemo and total body irradiation. No side effects from either.

    July 1 2014 Happy rebirthday to me. My sister donated the stem cells and that were immediately transplanted. Due to drugs they gave me I slept through the whole process.

    July – Sept 2014 We were required to be within 15 minutes of the hospital for these three months. For the first month I was monitored every day including weekends. This tapered off to 3 times a week and then twice a week. We were fortunate to be a guest of Brent’s Place. The provide 16 apartments at no charge in their building for people undergoing blood cancer treatment. Most of the apartments are for kids, but they have two for old codgers. They are very conscious about cleanliness due to high infection rate among those who have suppressed immune systems. They also provide entertainment and many meals. One evening I had dinner delivered to our room by Miss Colorado. They also provided premium seats to the Rockies and Bronco games, to museums, etc. I regained much of my strength and was doing 5 mile daily walks. I was yearning to be able to sleep in my own bed again.

    Oct – Nov 2014 I did get to spend two nights back home and started running a fever. I went to the ER and in 5 minutes I was in a hospital bed. It turned out that I had CMV, c.diff, and graft vs host (GVHD) grade 4 which completely destroyed my gut lining. I was unable to eat anything for 2 months. I lost 40 pounds. In the first 6 weeks they were making no progress. Survival rate for this condition is less than 20%. I felt like I was in prison. I was not allowed to even leave my bed unescorted. They packed me in an ambulance and drove me to another hospital. An ambulance is not a comfortable mode of transportation. Fortunately the ride was only one hour. In two weeks they worked out a game plan that allowed progress. They put me on TPM (IV feed) and the weight stabilized. End of Nov I was discharged and sent home with home TPM for another two months. TPM does not make a good Christmas diner.

    Dec 2014 – Jun 2015 After the hospital stay I was mostly cured of my ailments but extremely weak. The home physical therapist was very proud when I was able to walk a block. In Jan. I was weaned gradually off the TPM and started some solid food. Recovery went slowly but surely and I was back to walking 3 miles a day and feeling much better. In May and June they started tapering me off my transplant drugs.

    July 2015 My first rebirthday was July 1. The doctors thought I was doing so well that I should stop taking my small doses of transplant meds. 3 days later I broke out in a spectacular example of GVHD. I had a rash from the soles of my feet to the top of my scalp that felt like someone was sticking pins into the poison ivy like rash that I had. The GVHD also effected my eyes and mouth. Back onto transplant drugs. No change. Increase prednisone which topped out at 120 mg. a day. Some pretty nasty side effects from that dose.

    Nov 2015 Pred is now down to 7.5 mg. a day. My oncologist says that I have a very strong transplant and that my chances of relapse of MDS or getting AML is less than 20%. He said that I will probably be on some immo suppressant drugs indefinitely so I will have a very low risk of GVHD. When I stopped the drugs on July 1 my pred was 5 mg. once every 3 days. The doctors thought that at such a low dose would allow for stopping the drugs. Now they agree they tapered too fast and will go slower this time. Overall the oncologist thinks I am in very good shape and even more so when you consider what I have been through.

    Fortunately I have Medicare with the plan F supplement so medical charges have been zero. Medicare shows this treatment resulted in 523 Medicare charges totaling about $1.5 million. The VA is providing me all my drug needs at no charge. It seems like I get a package from them almost every other day. If I knew then what I know now would I still opt for a transplant? Silly question, of course I would. Would I have survived without my trusty care giver. I don’t think so.

    #29060
    LeAnn Duke
    Participant

    Rar, what a story!! Thank you for sharing it with all of us who have yet to get to where you are. I am 58 and have MDSRARS refractory anemia with ringed sideroblasts. I am low risk now and am transfusion dependent. The oncologist tried me on Aranesp, an injection that was supposed to help the bone marrow to produce more healthy red blood cells but it didn’t work thus the monthly transfusions. I don’t have a clue as to how fast this disease progresses but I know it is really changeable and unstable and every month is different. My time for transplant may be far off, I’m not sure, but I have a twin sister that will be my donor so I have hopes that GVHD won’t become a problem. I realize that there can be other problems like C-diff and I pray that won’t be an issue either.

    I just wanted to say thank you for sharing your experience with us and telling it like it is!! I am glad you are doing so well. If I can ask, where did you have your SCT? I know most doctors/hospitals won’t do transplant on patients over 70 and say that they won’t accept donors over age 65. However, I hear that MD Anderson in Houston does.

    #29183
    Clement Rose
    Participant

    Are there MDS patients using Chinese medicines?

    #29184
    Clement Rose
    Participant

    Are there MDS patients using Chinese medicines?

    #29185
    Clement Rose
    Participant

    Are there MDS patients using Chinese medicines?

    #29186
    rar
    Participant

    I know most doctors/hospitals won’t do transplant on patients over 70 and say that they won’t accept donors over age 65. However, I hear that MD Anderson in Houston does.

    Transplant was done at University of Colorado in Aurora. I beat them on both age barriers. No one ever mentioned age on doing the transplant. I look younger than my age, but they have records and know how old I am.

    MDS is unpredictable. I went from MDS so mild that it would need treatment to needing a treatment in a few months.

    Ray

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